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All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

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All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by yoshi200213 »

Hello
All arcade albums that use Yamaha ymf278b are broken in vgmplay since version 1.70 they don't sounds like mame or real hardware
In version 1.60 and olders they sound fine
Some instruments like the xylophone in stage 5 music in bang bang ball not sounds like mame in vgmplay 1.70
Please fix this issue
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Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by ValleyBell »

Sorry, but MAME as a reference doesn't work. Please post an example of a real hardware recording to prove that VGMPlay is wrong.

VGMPlay has been verified against the Moonsound OPL4 board for MSX and it sounds very close to recordings from an actual MSX I heard.
(Just keep in mind that MSX packs need the "yrw801.rom" in the folder of VGMPlay.exe to work properly.)

Also: What is VGMPlay 1.70? We are at version 0.51.1.

Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by yoshi200213 »

In the last version of vgmplay all ymf278b arcade albums sounds wrong compare to old versions of vgmplay and khinsider albums
Here's a comparison with bang bang ball
Vgmrips
https://vgmrips.net/packs/pack/bang-bang-ball-arcade
Khinsider
https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-so ... merip-1996
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Post by ValleyBell »

Bang Bang Ball doesn't seem to be listed on https://vgmdb.net/, so I'm pretty sure that this khinsider album is just a MAME recording and not something recorded from real hardware.
Recorded emulation is not a valid reference.

THIS is a valid source: Moonsound(Wozblaster) test on real MSX (playing MSX Sonyc)

Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by yoshi200213 »

But is converted from vgm

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all arcade opl4 albums sounds correctly with game music emu plugin with foobar2000 but in vgmplay it sounds incorrect
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Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by ValleyBell »

If you really want old/broken emulation, you can always go back to VGMPlay 0.40.3 or so.

You're effectively asking for this (broken/outdated emulation) when we already have this. (improved and mostly accurate emulation)
And you are obviously unable to prove that VGMPlay is incorrect, because all of your references are outdated emulators.

Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by yoshi200213 »

No, the latest version of vgmplay broke opl4 arcade songs like bang bang ball

Re: All ymf278b arcade albums are broken in the last version of of vgm play 1.70

Post by yoshi200213 »

Here is the evidence
area 5 vgmplay 0.40.9.zip
(421.29 KiB) Downloaded 52 times
area 5 vgmplay 0.51.1.zip
(452.61 KiB) Downloaded 70 times
They are compressed in zip format

recorded with audacity and recorded from vgmplay 0.40.9 and vgmplay 0.51.1 for comparison

is the area 5 song from bang bang ball

all ymf278b arcade albums regression since vgmplay 0.50.0

Post by yoshi200213 »

hello all ymf278b arcade albums like bang bang ball suffers from a regression in the instruments since vgmplay 0.50.0 and upwards
in vgmplay 0.40.9 and downwards all the tracks sounds correctly before.
i play a track from bang bang ball in vgmplay 0.40.9 and vgmplay 0.50.0 for comparison and I conclude that there was a regression in the tracks

heres are the results:
area 5 vgmplay 0.40.9.zip
(421.29 KiB) Downloaded 63 times
area 5 vgmplay 0.50.0.zip
(452.61 KiB) Downloaded 67 times
Admin edit: Merged the post with another forum topic that deals with the same issue.
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